A Mindful Lawyer
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A Mindful Lawyer

An interview with Jon Krop

CLE Credit
AZ· Professional Responsibility
1 cr
CA· Wellness Competence
1 cr
CT· Ethics and Professionalism
1 cr
IL· Mental Health and Substance Abuse
1 cr
NY· Ethics and Professionalism
1 cr

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The legal profession is known for high stakes and high stress, and the toll on lawyers' health and performance is well documented. Mindfulness, a form of attention training drawn from contemplative traditions and studied extensively by modern researchers, offers lawyers a practical way to respond to stress more skillfully, whether in a courtroom, at a negotiating table, or between calls.

In this TalksOnLaw interview, recorded in 2020, Joel Cohen speaks with Jon Krop, founder of Mindfulness for Lawyers (now Flourish Legal Well-Being) and a former litigator and federal appellate clerk, about why legal work is so stressful, what mindfulness is and is not, and how busy lawyers can build it into the workday.

Why Lawyers Are Stressed

Krop explains the difference between motivating "eustress" and harmful distress, and why chronic stress impairs judgment, attention to detail, and self-control as well as health. Drawing on Dr. Martin Seligman's work, he describes three features of legal practice that contribute to lawyer unhappiness: low decision latitude, the trained habit of spotting what can go wrong, and the zero-sum nature of the adversary system. He cautions that stress is not only an individual problem and that legal employers share responsibility for the cultures they create.

What Mindfulness Is and What the Research Shows

Krop defines mindfulness as moment-to-moment awareness of present experience, explains why it is not "anti-thinking," and describes how practice creates space between an emotion and the response to it. He discusses research on stress, anxiety, and blood pressure, studies by Dr. Sara Lazar and Dr. Richard Davidson on changes in the brain, and why even modest daily practice produces measurable benefits.

Practices for a Lawyer's Day

Krop guides a short breath-awareness exercise and explains why noticing a wandering mind and returning is the practice itself. He covers formal practice of just a few minutes a day, "short sessions many times," mindful walking, driving mindfully, a labeling technique for acute stress that avoids both suppression and rumination, and a "mindful mini pause" that can be used during a call or meeting. The conversation also addresses alcohol use in the profession, mindfulness in law schools, and steps firms are taking toward broader well-being programs.

What to Know Now

More jurisdictions now treat lawyer well-being as part of mandatory continuing legal education. Minnesota began requiring at least one credit in mental health and substance use in each reporting cycle starting July 1, 2024, and states such as California, Nevada, and South Carolina already require credit in related areas. The ABA's Model Rule for Minimum Continuing Legal Education recommends one hour of mental health and substance use programming every three years, and the ABA's Well-Being Pledge for legal employers, now with 257 signatories, remains the profession's main framework for the kind of firm-wide programs discussed in this interview.

The profession also has new data. In September 2026 the ABA's Commission on Lawyer Assistance Programs released "When Demands Equal Distress," a survey of about 37,000 lawyers in 28 jurisdictions. It found that 21.7% of lawyers report moderate to extremely severe depression and 41.8% screen positive for risky drinking. Hazardous drinking, at 26.3%, is about 10 percentage points lower than in the 2016 ABA and Hazelden Betty Ford Foundation study discussed in this interview. Younger lawyers show the highest risk, and nearly half of respondents screened positive for high burnout. Lawyers seeking confidential help can contact their state's Lawyer Assistance Program.

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About Jon Krop

“High levels of stress aren’t just bad for your health, but they’re bad for your performance.”

Jon Krop is the founder of Flourish Legal Well-Being, which grew out of Mindfulness for Lawyers, the organization he founded to teach mindfulness to the legal profession. Krop has led mindfulness and well-being programs at more than 70 law firms, Fortune 100 companies, public defender’s offices, state courts, and government agencies including the Pentagon, as well as at Harvard, Yale, Stanford, New York University, and the University of Pennsylvania. After graduating from Harvard Law School, he clerked on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit and worked as a litigator at firms in Los Angeles and New York City. Through Flourish, Krop and a team of expert presenters, most of them lawyers, deliver workshops for law firms and legal teams on stress and resilience, burnout prevention, mindfulness and focus, and related well-being topics. He has practiced mindfulness since 2006, including a seven-month silent meditation retreat in 2014. His programs rest on the idea of being “designed for lawyers by a lawyer” and are specifically tailored to help lawyers lessen anxiety, improve their mental health, and build greater emotional resilience and focus.